Major SpyShelter announcement: Keyboard encryption is dead, long live keyboard encryption

I agree with you. Indeed before testing KeyScrambler 3.18, released long before Windows 11 24H2, I thought the same problem would occur as in version 3.17 but I was proven wrong.

I understand but, as I think you already know, Microsoft will cease support for Windows 10 Home and Pro on 14th October 2025. Anyway there are still about six months left before that date so both HitmanPro.Alert and SpyShelter developers have time to fix issues or introduce new features on Windows 11 24H2.

We are trying to make something that’s more usable so more people can understand how to use it. We found that the old UI was difficult to understand and use.

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OK I see, I don’t really agree with this though. The old GUI was pretty good in my view. But is SS 15 based on the old source code, or did you guys build it yourself and only bought the product name? That’s what has never become clear to me.

That is no problem for me at all. Most of the bugs that are fixed in Windows aren’t that easy to exploit from remote. And nowadays, hackers will reserve the most advanced exploits for high profile targets, not the average home user. A fully up to date Windows is important, but less important than a good security tool that will protect the system against malware and zero day attacks.

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In my opinion, I think we used the code every way possible and then added to it when necessary. I think there would be no reason to rebuild every single thing and waste time, right? :+1:

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OK I see, so it wasn’t build from scratch, good to know. I do hope you guys will bring the network monitor back. :+1:

If we could bring back any features with no technical limitations due to Windows, what features would you think are most important?

Well, that’s the problem, I don’t know which technical limitations you guys might run into on Win 11. So far you guys haven’t been able to implement keystroke encryption, and SS isn’t able to alert about screenshots, it simply blocks ALL apps.

But I do think that anti-code injection should be possible to implement. We already talked extensively about this subject. And a more powerful file/folder protection feature would be nice too.

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Yes, I think anti-injection is a cool feature that’s unique. File/folder protection is pretty powerful though, you should give it a try. If I remember correctly you still use old “classic” versions of SpyShelter?

Yes, I’m still using SS version 12, because SS 15 wouldn’t run on Win 10 1909. And besides that, it wouldn’t make sense to upgrade to a product which offers less protection.

And about file/folder protection, there are other tools that offer this, but what would make SS standout is more granular control. So let’s say, Firefox can only access its own profile folder but not the Downloads and Documents folders.

Ah, I didn’t realize you used that older Windows version, or maybe I missed that earlier. I understand now why you don’t use our older software.

I’d argue that our latest software actually has significantly more protection due to its visibility aspects that show you what’s happening on your PC, and because it is fully functional with the latest Windows software/APIs. However, I get that you specifically like the antikeylogger functionality of the Classic software so if that’s what you mean then I understand completely.

I understand what you are saying about File Protection and I will share with my team. Thanks as always for your useful posts and info so we can keep working to improve! We actually have a pretty cool update coming soon with completely new features that I think SpyShelter users will be excited about!

Maybe if down the road you end up with a newer Windows version you might consider trying this new version, and perhaps it will change your mind about what our modern software offers vs the Classic one. :+1:

I have to disagree, if you purely look at all of the stuff that SS 12 monitors vs SS 15, then we must conclude that SS 12 offers more protection. And I’m not talking about visibility, but purely about behavior blocking.

For example, SS 15 doesn’t offer keystroke encryption, it doesn’t monitor code injection and hooking. It doesn’t block modification of the Master Boot Record. And when it comes to visibility, it doesn’t offer a network monitor.

But you guys already explained that Win 11 made it difficult to copy all of SS Classic’s features. That’s why I’m not planning to upgrade to Win 11 anytime soon, but if I do, then of course I will most likely continue to use SpyShelter 15.

Can you give some more information about the new features? :stuck_out_tongue:

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So keystroke encryption on 11 is still possible, only in a different way?
there is:

  • Hitmanpro.Alert. It has real time keystroke Encryption.
  • KeyScrambler
  • Ghostpress

I am also exited to see what the new updates are, Keep up making great software, i recommend spyshelter to pay for, and maybe bring lifetime license back, when there is no software with keystroke encryption with one time payment, Just suggestions, Consider it

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Hello,
currently Hitman Pro Alert keystroke encryption seems to have some issue on latest Windows 11 24H2 judging from the developer’s post on Wilders Security forum’s thread HitmanPro.ALERT Support and Discussion Thread | Page 683 | Wilders Security Forums He hasn’t updated that thread since then and latest Hitman Pro Alert version was released one month before that post New Releases, Updates and Builds for hitmanpro.alert | HitmanPro
Ghostpress doesn’t use keystroke encryption technique while KeyScrambler does use it and I can confirm that latest KeyScrambler version 3.18, even if it was released in August 2023, works well in latest Windows 11 24H2.
My OS is Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.3775)

KeyScrambler has 3 versions: Personal is free while the paid ones (Professional and Premium) are one-time payment for the version’s number you pay for. Furthermore you are guaranteed free upgrades for one year.

Yes, perhaps it may be possible. We continue to investigate and see if it’s something we can implement and support long term. Our main fear is that we put major time/resources into it, then find Microsoft permanently disables our work with no solution to bring it back. That would result in many angry customers, and what could we do to solve it?

Therefore, now we focus on making features that we can continue to support long term, that still help a lot with security, and that Microsoft shouldn’t ever suddenly disable with no warning.

I love the idea of separate keyboard encryption app. If someone has premium version you should do the discount for keyboard encryption app premium. This is the only idea of selling product.

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Yes. If we could make one that meets Microsoft guidelines so it won’t be disabled randomly with a Windows update we could sell it, but if it’s a hack then perhaps we just make it free. But, we are very small and I am not sure we have the resources to do that. It would have to be a very simple implementation.