Yes, this is a good point along with your others. We are considering all options.
If we focused more on AppControl (not that we necessarily will) we will make sure the SpyShelter paid activation code works on a paid AppControl version, if we made a paid AppControl in the future. Right now we are just getting user feedback on SpyShelter and AppControl.
Well, there are some subtle nuances discovered as I dug into it some more. I’m running the current AppControl on my test system which does not have SS15 Pro. There will be and update to AppC next week or so and I’m holding off on running it with SS15 on my production PC until then.
AppC will have an optional Suspicious App Detection Feature that sends “the executable file name, hash, and publisher details to our servers for AI analysis. Based on this limited data, we may also generate an AI description or ‘insight’ about what the app is and what it appears to do. At times a third party service may help generate this description.”
I see that as being an enhancement to SS15’s Threat Monitoring.
Setting a Block or Disable rule in AC should be avoided, obviously.
While AppC has its own internet real estate, that should be venue for AppControl-only discussion where here it should be to discuss observations and issues when running both. Once I get the update AppC and my SS15 Pro running together, I’m going to start a separate Topic. Unless some one beats me to it and I join in.
The AppC crew should monitor here as what might be relevant to us could be leveraged in AppControl, especially if there will be a Pro.
Note: The crew are posting up here as well:
`www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/appcontrol-launches-new-pc-monitoring-utility.346175/
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Cheers.
BTW, did you guys already figure out why both SpyShelter and AppControl can’t work correctly on Windows 10 1909?
I think it’s no longer supported by Microsoft, or am I mistaken? So we did not spend major time solving it.
No correct, it’s not supported, but I thought perhaps it would be easy to figure out. As mentioned before, just about all other advanced security tools work correctly on Win 10 1909.
I have no problems with HitmanPro.Alert, AppCheck Anti-Ransomware, OSArmor, SpyShelter Firewall, TinyWall, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit and Sandboxie. They all register a system service and driver without any problems. Obviously, Windows Defender also works correctly.
So what’s so special about SpyShelter 15? 
Alternatively I think our Classic software does work there, so we do have a supporting software still for that older OS version. But yes, our modern software doesn’t work on that very old Windows 10 version, but if you run Windows Update it will begin working with no issues. My question might be, why not just run Windows update? Maybe there is an issue I am not aware of where some people cannot do that with some hardware, or what is the reason?
Yes correct, it may or may not work correctly (both AppControl and SpyShelter 15) if I update Windows 10, but I see no need to do so, who knows what other problems I may encounter. I have had bad experiences with major updates in the past.
I’m just trying to figure out what’s so different about the tools that you guys develop, is it the software framework or something? Why can’t the GUI correctly interact with the service/driver on Win 10 1909, know what I mean? I see this with both SpyShelter and AppControl, which is quite odd.
That is frustrating. Let me see what I can find out? I think it’s some API changed with Windows.
Can’t you guys install Win 10 1909 in a virtual machine, trying to reproduce it? Perhaps it’s easy to fix, who knows?
As mentioned before, just about ALL other security tools work just fine on Win 10 1909, even new versions of those tools that I already mentioned. Which software framework do you guys use?
I think that Windows version got end of lifed in 2022, so it’s hard to decide to go back and spend time on that when every day it just loses more and more users. Am I wrong about the end of life for it?
Hello Carl,
for Windows 10 Home and Pro, Version 1909, the end of support was May 11, 2021 from Microsoft webpage at Windows 10 Home and Pro - Microsoft Lifecycle | Microsoft Learn
Like I said, you guys can perhaps check if it’s easy to fix. So install Windows 10 1909, and then install SpyShelter/AppControl and see if you can reproduce it. If it’s too hard to figure out, then I agree it’s not worth it. Perhaps it’s some problem with Flutter? 
By the way, I was thinking that perhaps the Dart programming language makes it more difficult to implement certain features? Perhaps it hasn’t got anything to do with Windows 11?
Yes, I think this may be a limitation unfortunately.
I recently learned that Flutter (which you guys use for the GUI) is tied to the Dart programming language, so that’s why I figured that perhaps that’s why you guys have difficulties implementing certain features. But I’m not sure, I’m not a programmer, perhaps it’s not true at all.