Major SpyShelter announcement: Keyboard encryption is dead, long live keyboard encryption

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If I remember correctly you have Windows 10 so even if you can’t test it on latest Windows 11’s build but you need a free keystroke encryption software for browser’s use (If I’m not wrong you use Vivaldi, which is included in 70+ Web Browsers list), WIndows 10 is supported, according to QFX website. Download – KeyScrambler by QFX Software Corp.

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Hello everyone who participated in this thread! I know you guys haven’t seen much new news lately about us being unable to make an antikeylogger, so I wanted to post something else you might be interested in.

I wanted to announce a new free app that our team made that’s complementary to SpyShelter, and focuses on giving you visibility into your PC’s resource usage. AppControl is released today and it works with SpyShelter, but it focuses more on monitoring historical resource usage, while SpyShelter is more about security.

Please give it a try at https://www.appcontrol.com/. Any feedback is much appreciated. The app is free. I emailed our beta testers about the app also today. The people at Softpedia were nice enough to test the new app and write a review (linked from the AppControl home page), so you can be sure it’s ad-free and safe to download.

Sadly enough, I wasn’t able to install this on my Win 10 machine, it can’t load the driver for some reason, but looks like an interesting tool.

However, I would suggest to integrate this stuff into SpyShelter, and to replace SpyShelter’s GUI with the one from AppControl because it seems to look more nice. Also, I assume you guys won’t be adding any new security features to SpyShelter? :slight_smile:

@RasheedHolland can you let us know your Windows 10 build number and if it’s 32 or 64 bit version? We’ll look into it.

Thanks for your feedback. What new security features would you suggest? I think we are disappointed it’s not possible to add some kind of anti-keylogger with modern Windows… but we are hoping that will change and we can do that. The best thing for us would be that there is some reliable way to add anti-keylogging for modern Windows versions, then release that. As it is now, we have SpyShelter an anti-keylogger brand, and we can’t offer it anymore in a reliable way, so that’s the main reason we decided to try the AppControl idea.

I’m using Windows 10 1909 (64 bit), I don’t know what it is, but besides AppControl, I also couldn’t get SpyShelter 15 to work on this system, it refused to connect to the service. But now AppControl can’t be installed at all, I don’t think any of my security tools were blocking it.

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You can still block keyloggers in different ways, keystroke encryption isn’t the only option. Keep in mind that KeyScrambler still works on Windows 11.

But the thing is, SpyShelter used to be a hardcore HIPS/behavior blocker, so we also need protection against stuff like DLL hijacking and code injection. Not to forget about a network monitor and outbound network control. Just look at all of the stuff that iDefender is offering. :slight_smile:

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Sorry, we’ll try to reproduce and fix the Windows 10 issue.

We’ll check that project. I have not seen it before unless you posted before and I forgot?

I think Windows 10 1909 might somehow be too old, it’s also missing updates. But perhaps you guys can see if it’s easy to fix. The thing is, most other security tools work just fine. :neutral_face:

Do you mean KeyScrambler or iDefender? You guys should definitely check out iDefender, I think the GUI is not handy at all, but in terms of pure protection, it’s the most advanced HIPS, together with Comodo Internet Security. I had hoped SpyShelter 15 would achieve the same level of protection.

And what I meant is, that you can use different methods to block keyloggers, besides keystroke encryption. You can also block injection/hooking methods, as seen in this simulator. But is it fair to say, that you guys are not interested in adding new protection methods to SpyShelter? I mean we talked about this all before. And now you guys have released AppControl. :thinking:

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Actually, I forgot to mention GhostPress, a tool that can also block most keyloggers, without keystroke encryption. I believe it uses ‘‘global hooks’’ to hide keystrokes from other apps. Remember, we talked about this before too, but seems you guys have not looked into this, perhaps because you guys were busy with AppControl? :slightly_smiling_face:

Well, we hoped to add more and more security protections to SpyShelter including antikeylogging. But with every feature we wanted to add, it seems Microsoft made changes that made it impossible or unreliable. So yes, we got frustrated and tried something else with AppControl. The injection/hooking seems to have been blocked by Microsoft awhile back. I think there are still ways to do that somehow? if the tool you posted does, but in our research we found Microsoft makes changes to block these methods so it won’t work reliably. Or, at least we can’t figure out how to do that.

As I mentioned before, if you guys really can’t figure out how to bring back certain of the SpyShelter 12 protection features (like anti-code injection and keystroke encryption), I think the best strategy is to market SpyShelter as a ‘‘lightweight’’ behavior blocker, which monitors mic/cam access, service/driver installation and folder access.

The anti-screenshot and anti-executable features are of no use to me, so that’s why I didn’t mention them, but others might find it useful. And it’s not clear to me if the registry monitor is active or not? It’s still mentioned on your website! I also think you should combine SpyShelter with AppControl, why make two different apps? :slightly_smiling_face:

Yes, we have considered that. If we ever did that then it would be important that the SpyShelter activation codes work perfectly on AppControl so the SpyShelter customers could either continue to use SpyShelter, or use their code somehow on AppControl if it had a paid version in the future. The main thing for us is to make sure everyone who supported the SpyShelter project is treated in a positive way that they are happy with, and whatever we do is documented in detail so there is no confusion. I think if we did some kind of combining of the projects then the codes from SpyShelter should just work exactly the same for SpyShelter and AppControl both.

For example, let’s say you have a paid version of SpyShelter. You could use the same code on SpyShelter, or you could use it on AppControl too. So, you would not lose your old SpyShelter software and you could choose to use that, but in addition your code works with AppControl. So now you get access to any premium versions of both projects for no additional payment and it just works with the current code. So, if we ever did a combining of both projects it would be important that it’s done in that positive way so nobody who paid for SpyShelter loses anything and only gains a secondary paid service for no additional charge. Do you think that sounds good?

AppControl is a prettier and user-friendlier implementation of SpyShelter 15’s activity panel with a basic yes/no alert/rule functionality and the ability to roll up targeted historical data. That’s a whole lotta good stuff for free. Kudos! SpyShelter 12 users can run it in parallel.

I don’t see what “combining” it with SpyShelter 15 elevates much given SS15’s threat protection and application, system and file integrity modules, among other unique nuances. Like allowing an app to launch but blocking its access to files.

I’d not hesitate recommending AppControl to anyone running a mainstream user’s “store-bought” Windows environment.

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Thank you @Surt! Yes, this app is more for mainstream people and gamers.

In my view, you should offer a SpyShelter Free version (which is basically the same as AppControl Free) and all paid features should be offered in the SpyShelter Pro version. So this should not give any licensing issues at all. :slight_smile:

The point is that if you offer a SpyShelter Free version with AppControl’s more userfriendly task manager, then it will bring more name recognition to the SpyShelter brand.

So SpyShelter Free will be more about visibility, and if you want actual protection, you should upgrade to SpyShelter Pro. Plus, it seems like you can actually resize/maximize AppControl’s GUI, this should be ported to SpyShelter too. :slight_smile: